In this episode of the podcast, Chris is joined again by Sascha Meinrath, Palmer Chair of Telecommunications at Penn State, for a wide-ranging, discussion about the book Abundance by Derek Thompson and Ezra Klein—and what it gets wrong about broadband and public policy. 

They dive into the historical failures of corporatist infrastructure models, the rise of regulatory complexity that benefits incumbents, and the dangers of framing government as the problem instead of part of the solution. 

From the Kingsbury Commitment to BEAD to trickle-down tech policy, Chris and Sascha explore why bold, community-centered visions of abundance are necessary to deliver real digital equity and structural change.

This show is 39 minutes long and can be played on this page or via Apple Podcasts or the tool of your choice using this feed.

Transcript below.

We want your feedback and suggestions for the show-please e-mail us or leave a comment below.

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Thanks to Arne Huseby for the music. The song is Warm Duck Shuffle and is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution (3.0) license

In this episode of the podcast, Chris is joined again by Sascha Meinrath, Palmer Chair of Telecommunications at Penn State, for a wide-ranging, discussion about the book Abundance by Derek Thompson and Ezra Klein—and what it gets wrong about broadband and public policy. 

They dive into the historical failures of corporatist infrastructure models, the rise of regulatory complexity that benefits incumbents, and the dangers of framing government as the problem instead of part of the solution. 

From the Kingsbury Commitment to BEAD to trickle-down tech policy, Chris and Sascha explore why bold, community-centered visions of abundance are necessary to deliver real digital equity and structural change.

This show is 39 minutes long and can be played on this page or via Apple Podcasts or the tool of your choice using this feed.

Transcript below.

We want your feedback and suggestions for the show-please e-mail us or leave a comment below.

Listen to other episodes or view all episodes in our index. See other podcasts from the Institute for Local Self-Reliance.

Thanks to Arne Huseby for the music. The song is Warm Duck Shuffle and is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution (3.0) license

In this episode of the podcast, Chris is joined again by Sascha Meinrath, Palmer Chair of Telecommunications at Penn State, for a wide-ranging, discussion about the book Abundance by Derek Thompson and Ezra Klein—and what it gets wrong about broadband and public policy. 

They dive into the historical failures of corporatist infrastructure models, the rise of regulatory complexity that benefits incumbents, and the dangers of framing government as the problem instead of part of the solution. 

From the Kingsbury Commitment to BEAD to trickle-down tech policy, Chris and Sascha explore why bold, community-centered visions of abundance are necessary to deliver real digital equity and structural change.

This show is 39 minutes long and can be played on this page or via Apple Podcasts or the tool of your choice using this feed.

Transcript below.

We want your feedback and suggestions for the show-please e-mail us or leave a comment below.

Listen to other episodes or view all episodes in our index. See other podcasts from the Institute for Local Self-Reliance.

Thanks to Arne Huseby for the music. The song is Warm Duck Shuffle and is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution (3.0) license

In this episode of the podcast, Chris is joined again by Sascha Meinrath, Palmer Chair of Telecommunications at Penn State, for a wide-ranging, discussion about the book Abundance by Derek Thompson and Ezra Klein—and what it gets wrong about broadband and public policy. 

They dive into the historical failures of corporatist infrastructure models, the rise of regulatory complexity that benefits incumbents, and the dangers of framing government as the problem instead of part of the solution. 

From the Kingsbury Commitment to BEAD to trickle-down tech policy, Chris and Sascha explore why bold, community-centered visions of abundance are necessary to deliver real digital equity and structural change.

This show is 39 minutes long and can be played on this page or via Apple Podcasts or the tool of your choice using this feed.

Transcript below.

We want your feedback and suggestions for the show-please e-mail us or leave a comment below.

Listen to other episodes or view all episodes in our index. See other podcasts from the Institute for Local Self-Reliance.

Thanks to Arne Huseby for the music. The song is Warm Duck Shuffle and is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution (3.0) license

In this episode of the podcast, Chris is joined again by Sascha Meinrath, Palmer Chair of Telecommunications at Penn State, for a wide-ranging, discussion about the book Abundance by Derek Thompson and Ezra Klein—and what it gets wrong about broadband and public policy. 

They dive into the historical failures of corporatist infrastructure models, the rise of regulatory complexity that benefits incumbents, and the dangers of framing government as the problem instead of part of the solution. 

From the Kingsbury Commitment to BEAD to trickle-down tech policy, Chris and Sascha explore why bold, community-centered visions of abundance are necessary to deliver real digital equity and structural change.

This show is 39 minutes long and can be played on this page or via Apple Podcasts or the tool of your choice using this feed.

Transcript below.

We want your feedback and suggestions for the show-please e-mail us or leave a comment below.

Listen to other episodes or view all episodes in our index. See other podcasts from the Institute for Local Self-Reliance.

Thanks to Arne Huseby for the music. The song is Warm Duck Shuffle and is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution (3.0) license

In this episode of the podcast, Chris is joined again by Sascha Meinrath, Palmer Chair of Telecommunications at Penn State, for a wide-ranging, discussion about the book Abundance by Derek Thompson and Ezra Klein—and what it gets wrong about broadband and public policy. 

They dive into the historical failures of corporatist infrastructure models, the rise of regulatory complexity that benefits incumbents, and the dangers of framing government as the problem instead of part of the solution. 

From the Kingsbury Commitment to BEAD to trickle-down tech policy, Chris and Sascha explore why bold, community-centered visions of abundance are necessary to deliver real digital equity and structural change.

This show is 39 minutes long and can be played on this page or via Apple Podcasts or the tool of your choice using this feed.

Transcript below.

We want your feedback and suggestions for the show-please e-mail us or leave a comment below.

Listen to other episodes or view all episodes in our index. See other podcasts from the Institute for Local Self-Reliance.

Thanks to Arne Huseby for the music. The song is Warm Duck Shuffle and is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution (3.0) license

In this episode of the podcast, Chris is joined again by Sascha Meinrath, Palmer Chair of Telecommunications at Penn State, for a wide-ranging, discussion about the book Abundance by Derek Thompson and Ezra Klein—and what it gets wrong about broadband and public policy. 

They dive into the historical failures of corporatist infrastructure models, the rise of regulatory complexity that benefits incumbents, and the dangers of framing government as the problem instead of part of the solution. 

From the Kingsbury Commitment to BEAD to trickle-down tech policy, Chris and Sascha explore why bold, community-centered visions of abundance are necessary to deliver real digital equity and structural change.

This show is 39 minutes long and can be played on this page or via Apple Podcasts or the tool of your choice using this feed.

Transcript below.

We want your feedback and suggestions for the show-please e-mail us or leave a comment below.

Listen to other episodes or view all episodes in our index. See other podcasts from the Institute for Local Self-Reliance.

Thanks to Arne Huseby for the music. The song is Warm Duck Shuffle and is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution (3.0) license

In this episode of the podcast, Chris talks with Brian Vo (Connect Humanity) and Clara Miller (Federal Reserve Bank of New York) about unlocking mission-driven capital to bring broadband to historically excluded communities.

They explore how broadband networks, like other public utilities, can be funded through creative partnerships and financial tools that align with long-term community goals.

From the early lessons of the CDFI movement to success stories like Macon County, Alabama, this conversation highlights how inclusive, community-centered financing can build sustainable Internet infrastructure for the future.

This show is 30 minutes long and can be played on this page or via Apple Podcasts or the tool of your choice using this feed.

Transcript below.

We want your feedback and suggestions for the show-please e-mail us or leave a comment below.

Listen to other episodes or view all episodes in our index. See other podcasts from the Institute for Local Self-Reliance.

Thanks to Arne Huseby for the music. The song is Warm Duck Shuffle and is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution (3.0) license

In this episode of the podcast, Chris talks with Brian Vo (Connect Humanity) and Clara Miller (Federal Reserve Bank of New York) about unlocking mission-driven capital to bring broadband to historically excluded communities.

They explore how broadband networks, like other public utilities, can be funded through creative partnerships and financial tools that align with long-term community goals.

From the early lessons of the CDFI movement to success stories like Macon County, Alabama, this conversation highlights how inclusive, community-centered financing can build sustainable Internet infrastructure for the future.

This show is 30 minutes long and can be played on this page or via Apple Podcasts or the tool of your choice using this feed.

Transcript below.

We want your feedback and suggestions for the show-please e-mail us or leave a comment below.

Listen to other episodes or view all episodes in our index. See other podcasts from the Institute for Local Self-Reliance.

Thanks to Arne Huseby for the music. The song is Warm Duck Shuffle and is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution (3.0) license

In this episode of the podcast, Chris talks with Brian Vo (Connect Humanity) and Clara Miller (Federal Reserve Bank of New York) about unlocking mission-driven capital to bring broadband to historically excluded communities.

They explore how broadband networks, like other public utilities, can be funded through creative partnerships and financial tools that align with long-term community goals.

From the early lessons of the CDFI movement to success stories like Macon County, Alabama, this conversation highlights how inclusive, community-centered financing can build sustainable Internet infrastructure for the future.

This show is 30 minutes long and can be played on this page or via Apple Podcasts or the tool of your choice using this feed.

Transcript below.

We want your feedback and suggestions for the show-please e-mail us or leave a comment below.

Listen to other episodes or view all episodes in our index. See other podcasts from the Institute for Local Self-Reliance.

Thanks to Arne Huseby for the music. The song is Warm Duck Shuffle and is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution (3.0) license